Comments on: ColdFusion - A La Carte? http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/ ColdFusion, Ant, jQuery and other geeky stuff with the occasional motorcycle post. Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:10:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: David http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3391 David Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:43:59 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3391 A la carte....are you mad? CF developers are complaining about the price of a product most of them will never need to use (enterprise) - can you imagine asking them to pay in multiples for the stuff they do? Cheers, Davo A la carte….are you mad? CF developers are complaining about the price of a product most of them will never need to use (enterprise) - can you imagine asking them to pay in multiples for the stuff they do?

Cheers,

Davo

]]> By: Adam Reynolds http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3389 Adam Reynolds Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:41:05 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3389 Well there's always this http://www.smithproject.org/ Open source CFML engine. One I think I will be exploring at some point in the future for 'poorer' clients. Well there’s always this http://www.smithproject.org/

Open source CFML engine. One I think I will be exploring at some point in the future for ‘poorer’ clients.

]]> By: Jim http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3386 Jim Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:17:19 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3386 Jason - thank for the feedback! Luckily I'm no longer in a position to purchase software so I don't have to make the big decisions! :) Jason - thank for the feedback! Luckily I’m no longer in a position to purchase software so I don’t have to make the big decisions! :)

]]> By: Jason Delmore http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3385 Jason Delmore Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:09:16 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3385 By the way, we have considered A la Carte pricing... but there are a few issues. How do you sell a shrink-wrapped box with a la carte? Just sell the basic set and then have people buy add-ons? Then, the cost to manage that approach prohibitive... and a lot of customers have to deal with purchasing approvals... getting those for each major feature would really suck... Also, when we have tried to introduce A la Carte pricing (remember Reporting with CF7...), there was tremendous pushback from the community. People want to just buy a server with all the fixins... and I agree... it makes it easier and cheaper for everyone. If you have no other reason to upgrade than performance... then check out the performance! http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/cf8_performancebrief.pdf Cheers! Jason By the way, we have considered A la Carte pricing… but there are a few issues. How do you sell a shrink-wrapped box with a la carte? Just sell the basic set and then have people buy add-ons? Then, the cost to manage that approach prohibitive… and a lot of customers have to deal with purchasing approvals… getting those for each major feature would really suck… Also, when we have tried to introduce A la Carte pricing (remember Reporting with CF7…), there was tremendous pushback from the community. People want to just buy a server with all the fixins… and I agree… it makes it easier and cheaper for everyone.

If you have no other reason to upgrade than performance… then check out the performance!
http://www.adobe.com/products/.....ebrief.pdf

Cheers!
Jason

]]> By: Jason Delmore http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3384 Jason Delmore Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:51:01 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3384 Developer Edition is designed for local development... not for staging a production application. The IP restriction is the localhost, plus the first 2 IPs to connect between server restarts. Hope that helps! Jason Developer Edition is designed for local development… not for staging a production application. The IP restriction is the localhost, plus the first 2 IPs to connect between server restarts.

Hope that helps!
Jason

]]> By: Sammy Larbi http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3383 Sammy Larbi Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:50:42 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3383 Ahh, I see. I thought the IPs were dynamic though - as in only 2 IPs at any given time, not 2 specific IPs. It was just an assumption though - I've never tried it. Instead, when we need a customer to check something out, we normally just deploy to the production server under a different URL or directory that the real production code/site. Ahh, I see. I thought the IPs were dynamic though - as in only 2 IPs at any given time, not 2 specific IPs. It was just an assumption though - I’ve never tried it.

Instead, when we need a customer to check something out, we normally just deploy to the production server under a different URL or directory that the real production code/site.

]]> By: Jim http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3382 Jim Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:36:04 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3382 @Sammy - they do offer a develop edition - where I worked before - we had a 'development/staging' server setup that clients, etc could access - and in that case - the 'developer edition' wasn't sufficient (limited IPs). @Sammy - they do offer a develop edition - where I worked before - we had a ‘development/staging’ server setup that clients, etc could access - and in that case - the ‘developer edition’ wasn’t sufficient (limited IPs).

]]> By: Sammy Larbi http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3381 Sammy Larbi Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:27:11 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3381 They offer the free developer edition for you to develop/test on, I thought. Is the license wrong? They offer the free developer edition for you to develop/test on, I thought. Is the license wrong?

]]> By: Tom http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3380 Tom Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:02:01 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/2007/07/30/coldfusion-a-la-carte/#comment-3380 We always buy subscriptions with our new servers and renew them every 2 years. We get more than our money back from them. We always buy subscriptions with our new servers and renew them every 2 years. We get more than our money back from them.

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