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	<title>Comments on: After All These Years IE Still Sucks.  Debugging Javascript In IE7?</title>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2007/12/03/after-all-these-years-ie-still-sucks-debugging-javascript-in-ie7/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is a blog post that talks about &quot;best&quot; options for debugging js in ie.

http://notetodogself.blogspot.com/2008/08/debug-javascript-in-ie.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is a blog post that talks about &#8220;best&#8221; options for debugging js in ie.</p>
<p><a href="http://notetodogself.blogspot.com/2008/08/debug-javascript-in-ie.html" rel="nofollow">http://notetodogself.blogspot.com/2008/08/debug-javascript-in-ie.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2007/12/03/after-all-these-years-ie-still-sucks-debugging-javascript-in-ie7/#comment-454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to followup - a nice post here:

http://www.adaptavist.com/display/~gfraser/2007/11/09/Script+debugging+in+MS+Internet+Exploder

Eventually ends up using Aptana Pro?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to followup &#8211; a nice post here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.adaptavist.com/display/~gfraser/2007/11/09/Script+debugging+in+MS+Internet+Exploder" rel="nofollow">http://www.adaptavist.com/display/~gfraser/2007/11/09/Script+debugging+in+MS+Internet+Exploder</a></p>
<p>Eventually ends up using Aptana Pro?!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2007/12/03/after-all-these-years-ie-still-sucks-debugging-javascript-in-ie7/#comment-453</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Gates weighs in:
http://www.molly.com/2007/12/05/conversation-with-bill-gates-about-ie8-and-microsoft-transparency/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Gates weighs in:<br />
<a href="http://www.molly.com/2007/12/05/conversation-with-bill-gates-about-ie8-and-microsoft-transparency/" rel="nofollow">http://www.molly.com/2007/12/05/conversation-with-bill-gates-about-ie8-and-microsoft-transparency/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2007/12/03/after-all-these-years-ie-still-sucks-debugging-javascript-in-ie7/#comment-452</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firebug lite works well for non-firefox browsers.  It seems weird you are having IE specific problems with jQuery - I&#039;ve only ran into that once in the last year with Ajax + Google Maps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firebug lite works well for non-firefox browsers.  It seems weird you are having IE specific problems with jQuery &#8211; I&#8217;ve only ran into that once in the last year with Ajax + Google Maps.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2007/12/03/after-all-these-years-ie-still-sucks-debugging-javascript-in-ie7/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch - this is really snowballing...

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;articleId=9050979&amp;intsrc=hm_list</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch &#8211; this is really snowballing&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&#038;articleId=9050979&#038;intsrc=hm_list" rel="nofollow">http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&#038;articleId=9050979&#038;intsrc=hm_list</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2007/12/03/after-all-these-years-ie-still-sucks-debugging-javascript-in-ie7/#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to follow this up - seems I&#039;m not the only one - the comments on this post &quot;The First Year of IE7&quot; are hilarious.

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/11/30/the-first-year-of-ie7.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to follow this up &#8211; seems I&#8217;m not the only one &#8211; the comments on this post &#8220;The First Year of IE7&#8243; are hilarious.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/11/30/the-first-year-of-ie7.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/11/30/the-first-year-of-ie7.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kam</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2007/12/03/after-all-these-years-ie-still-sucks-debugging-javascript-in-ie7/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>Kam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s possible to attach Visual Studio to the IE process and do proper debugging with breakpoints and such, including when the code is not ASP.NET. It&#039;s been improved in 2008, but also works in 2005:

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/07/19/vs-2008-javascript-debugging.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s possible to attach Visual Studio to the IE process and do proper debugging with breakpoints and such, including when the code is not ASP.NET. It&#8217;s been improved in 2008, but also works in 2005:</p>
<p><a href="http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/07/19/vs-2008-javascript-debugging.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/07/19/vs-2008-javascript-debugging.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Kim</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2007/12/03/after-all-these-years-ie-still-sucks-debugging-javascript-in-ie7/#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These two tools from the same company are nowhere near what firebug provides (such as step debugging), but provide some insight into js/css issues, http request/responses, and a console in IE:

Debug Bar
http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/ToDo/Beta

Companion.JS
http://www.ieforge.com/CompanionJS/HomePage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These two tools from the same company are nowhere near what firebug provides (such as step debugging), but provide some insight into js/css issues, http request/responses, and a console in IE:</p>
<p>Debug Bar<br />
<a href="http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/ToDo/Beta" rel="nofollow">http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/ToDo/Beta</a></p>
<p>Companion.JS<br />
<a href="http://www.ieforge.com/CompanionJS/HomePage" rel="nofollow">http://www.ieforge.com/CompanionJS/HomePage</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Koshy</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2007/12/03/after-all-these-years-ie-still-sucks-debugging-javascript-in-ie7/#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Koshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Introducing: Firebug-Lite!

The Firebug for Non-Firefox browsers!

http://www.getfirebug.com/lite.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Introducing: Firebug-Lite!</p>
<p>The Firebug for Non-Firefox browsers!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.getfirebug.com/lite.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.getfirebug.com/lite.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2007/12/03/after-all-these-years-ie-still-sucks-debugging-javascript-in-ie7/#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks all!

@Joe - the IE Developer toolbar doesn&#039;t offer any debugging :(

Erki - I&#039;ve read a few things and assumed the Script editor and the download were the same - I&#039;ll dig up an Office CD tomorrow and check that out.

@Rostislav - I did find a tutorial on how to hook up the free Visual Studio version which I may try tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all!</p>
<p>@Joe &#8211; the IE Developer toolbar doesn&#8217;t offer any debugging :(</p>
<p>Erki &#8211; I&#8217;ve read a few things and assumed the Script editor and the download were the same &#8211; I&#8217;ll dig up an Office CD tomorrow and check that out.</p>
<p>@Rostislav &#8211; I did find a tutorial on how to hook up the free Visual Studio version which I may try tomorrow.</p>
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