I don’t think I’ve seen anyone else mention this but I thought it merited some discussion…
Brian Meloche has a post on his blog Promoting CFML Outside of the CFML Community - Results. I’m guessing this went down at CFUnited.
In particular I was interested in the results from the Group 1 discussion “Promoting CFML to New Developers“. There is a ton of good stuff in there but in particular I thought the first suggestion was timely: “Vendor-neutral CFML Evangelism Site”.
Does it make sense for this effort to work with the recently announced “CFML Language Advisory Committee”? It seems like they share some of the same goals and I’d hate to see a duplication in effort.
Is it time for a community driven “CFML” site?
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What kinds of stuff do you think it should contain? Are there examples of other sites like this for other languages such as PHP or Asp.NET?
@Ben - I did find this ASP site: http://www.asp.org/
LOL.
But seriously there is http://asp.net. While run by Microsoft I think it’s a great portal. Check out the “Get Started” section.
PHP has http://php.net
I see what you’re saying. I wonder who would organize something like this. Looks like a lot of time and effort go into some of these sites.
Jim, you raise an interesting point. As someone who participated in the BOF and podcast, maybe I can help clear this up.
The idea was intended to *not* overlap with the new CFML Advisement Committee. Specifically, that committee is focused on the CFML language: What should get implemented, and how — and making sure that CFML is consistent across available (and participating) platforms (BD, Railo, and my guess is that if they are up for the task Smith is welcome to join in). They have no direction — at least none announced — to promote CFML awareness outside the CFML Community. The proposed site would fill that gap in particular. It would answer the questions:
- Why should I switch to CFML?
- How can I switch to CFML? (more about available platforms)
- If I know how to do X in asp/php/python/perl/etc, how do I do it in CFML?
Does that clear things up at all?
@Adam - Gotcha. It still seems like some cooperation could exist between the two groups… maybe share a member between the two so they could report back what’s new in CFML land and vice versa - ‘here’s what we’re hearing from PHP developers looking to switch’.
That sounds like a great idea. Since Brian posted it on his blog, I guess I can at least repeat that much: “We’re already in discussion and initial planning on both fronts.”
That said, input, creative ideas, and volunteers are always welcome!
@Adam - that’s great news. Once I finish up a few other projects I may be interested in getting involved in some form or fashion.
Our usergroup has a very lucrative domain name that we are going to be transforming into a portal like the ones listed above… We are going to need some help with content, but I think the end result will help the community greatly. The current site is at http://www.coldfusion.org
I was a member of the group and when I made the suggestion I was thinking of something similar to the Ruby on Rails site.
Contrasting CFML with other languages and providing information to get started. Answering the question why CFML and clearing up some common misconceptions. Take a look at their site and see if you don’t agree that CF would benefit.
We agreed that it should be a wiki and if it were to be successful would benefit from a large amount of community participation.
i don’t know if you’ve seen the wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.....p_Language
its rather sad, but at least a start, most likely hasn’t been updated for quite awhile.
re:@Nick Kwiatkowski ’s http://www.coldfusion.org:
for my two cents i’d like to see something like cfml.org as many engines power cfml, but only one is coldfusion.
i know in many people’s minds the two are the same, but in reality they are different and if we are to promote cfml, and get people exited about it along with the many engine options including coldfusion i think even the name needs to be cfml or otherwise generic.
@George - I agree - I think one of the most important things for this group would be to get the word out that CFML != ColdFusion message.
Did you guys listen to CFConversations? I *caught* Adam Haskell saying ColdFusion was the way of the future, not CFML! ;D
I am more than happy to donate hosting for sites like this over at http://www.cfmxhosting.co.uk