Comments on: Do We Need A CFML Site?

By: Russ Michaels

Russ Michaels — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:53:26 +0000

I am more than happy to donate hosting for sites like this over at http://www.cfmxhosting.co.uk

By: Adam Tuttle

Adam Tuttle — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:29:56 +0000

Did you guys listen to CFConversations? I *caught* Adam Haskell saying ColdFusion was the way of the future, not CFML! ;D

By: Jim

Jim — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:11:57 +0000

@George - I agree - I think one of the most important things for this group would be to get the word out that CFML != ColdFusion message.

By: George

George — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:08:28 +0000

i don’t know if you’ve seen the wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.....p_Language

its rather sad, but at least a start, most likely hasn’t been updated for quite awhile.

re:@Nick Kwiatkowski ’s http://www.coldfusion.org:

for my two cents i’d like to see something like cfml.org as many engines power cfml, but only one is coldfusion.

i know in many people’s minds the two are the same, but in reality they are different and if we are to promote cfml, and get people exited about it along with the many engine options including coldfusion i think even the name needs to be cfml or otherwise generic.

By: Rick Mason

Rick Mason — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:59:17 +0000

I was a member of the group and when I made the suggestion I was thinking of something similar to the Ruby on Rails site.

Contrasting CFML with other languages and providing information to get started. Answering the question why CFML and clearing up some common misconceptions. Take a look at their site and see if you don’t agree that CF would benefit.

We agreed that it should be a wiki and if it were to be successful would benefit from a large amount of community participation.

By: Nick Kwiatkowski

Nick Kwiatkowski — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:29:36 +0000

Our usergroup has a very lucrative domain name that we are going to be transforming into a portal like the ones listed above… We are going to need some help with content, but I think the end result will help the community greatly. The current site is at http://www.coldfusion.org

By: Jim

Jim — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:09:20 +0000

@Adam - that’s great news. Once I finish up a few other projects I may be interested in getting involved in some form or fashion.

By: Adam Tuttle

Adam Tuttle — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:00:59 +0000

That sounds like a great idea. Since Brian posted it on his blog, I guess I can at least repeat that much: “We’re already in discussion and initial planning on both fronts.”

That said, input, creative ideas, and volunteers are always welcome!

By: Jim

Jim — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:56:54 +0000

@Adam - Gotcha. It still seems like some cooperation could exist between the two groups… maybe share a member between the two so they could report back what’s new in CFML land and vice versa - ‘here’s what we’re hearing from PHP developers looking to switch’.

By: Adam Tuttle

Adam Tuttle — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:50:59 +0000

Jim, you raise an interesting point. As someone who participated in the BOF and podcast, maybe I can help clear this up.

The idea was intended to *not* overlap with the new CFML Advisement Committee. Specifically, that committee is focused on the CFML language: What should get implemented, and how — and making sure that CFML is consistent across available (and participating) platforms (BD, Railo, and my guess is that if they are up for the task Smith is welcome to join in). They have no direction — at least none announced — to promote CFML awareness outside the CFML Community. The proposed site would fill that gap in particular. It would answer the questions:

- Why should I switch to CFML?
- How can I switch to CFML? (more about available platforms)
- If I know how to do X in asp/php/python/perl/etc, how do I do it in CFML?

Does that clear things up at all?