Comments on: Where Does CFEclipse Fit In An Open CFML World? http://thecrumb.com/2009/04/07/where-does-cfeclipse-fit-in-an-open-cfml-world/ developer | thinker | tinkerer Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:30:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Eduardo http://thecrumb.com/2009/04/07/where-does-cfeclipse-fit-in-an-open-cfml-world/#comment-1196 Eduardo Thu, 28 May 2009 19:25:19 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/?p=814#comment-1196 I have attempted to switch from DW to CFEclipse multiple times and have come to the conclusion that it is just too buggy and cumbersome. There are many who obviously swear by it since everyone still hates Dreamweaver for whatever reason, but I just spent hours trying to get updates to install without throwing errors and getting my line numbers to show up (which ultimately required a trip to a configuration file). Opened the file explorer view and oops...no files, just more errors. These are just a few of the many frustrations and broken features I have encountered and the value of the time I have lost trying to get CFEclipse up and running more than justifies the price of a more reliable commercial IDE. I have attempted to switch from DW to CFEclipse multiple times and have come to the conclusion that it is just too buggy and cumbersome. There are many who obviously swear by it since everyone still hates Dreamweaver for whatever reason, but I just spent hours trying to get updates to install without throwing errors and getting my line numbers to show up (which ultimately required a trip to a configuration file). Opened the file explorer view and oops…no files, just more errors. These are just a few of the many frustrations and broken features I have encountered and the value of the time I have lost trying to get CFEclipse up and running more than justifies the price of a more reliable commercial IDE.

]]> By: Andy Sandefer http://thecrumb.com/2009/04/07/where-does-cfeclipse-fit-in-an-open-cfml-world/#comment-1195 Andy Sandefer Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:23:19 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/?p=814#comment-1195 So what could Bolt possibly have that CFEclipse does not? Spry widget wizards - that's not worth 300 bucks? I'll bet that Bolt's big advantage initially will be out of the box support for working CF9's new features. Remember when you used to get a copy of ColdFusion Studio when you bought ColdFusion Server? So what could Bolt possibly have that CFEclipse does not? Spry widget wizards – that’s not worth 300 bucks? I’ll bet that Bolt’s big advantage initially will be out of the box support for working CF9′s new features. Remember when you used to get a copy of ColdFusion Studio when you bought ColdFusion Server?

]]> By: Justin Carter http://thecrumb.com/2009/04/07/where-does-cfeclipse-fit-in-an-open-cfml-world/#comment-1194 Justin Carter Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:58:36 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/?p=814#comment-1194 As far as language support goes I think CFEclipse can't really go backwards from where it is now. CFEclipse already supports user defined tag dictionaries, so if a particular engine needs support for certain bespoke tags then either the vendors or we as users can add support where it is needed. Other bug fixes may be a slightly different story (Java isn't quite as simple as editing an XML file), but considering the tools we were using 4+ years ago I think we currently have it pretty good, and all off the back of some community members who gave CFEclipse to us for free. And it would be a shame for Adobe's Bolt IDE to block support for the customisation of the tags / syntax available in other CFML engines when CFML developers would gladly pay for it if/when it turns out to be a superior IDE (for those who can afford it). As far as language support goes I think CFEclipse can’t really go backwards from where it is now. CFEclipse already supports user defined tag dictionaries, so if a particular engine needs support for certain bespoke tags then either the vendors or we as users can add support where it is needed.

Other bug fixes may be a slightly different story (Java isn’t quite as simple as editing an XML file), but considering the tools we were using 4+ years ago I think we currently have it pretty good, and all off the back of some community members who gave CFEclipse to us for free. And it would be a shame for Adobe’s Bolt IDE to block support for the customisation of the tags / syntax available in other CFML engines when CFML developers would gladly pay for it if/when it turns out to be a superior IDE (for those who can afford it).

]]> By: Jim http://thecrumb.com/2009/04/07/where-does-cfeclipse-fit-in-an-open-cfml-world/#comment-1193 Jim Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:51:04 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/?p=814#comment-1193 Jeff, I'm not too worried about the cost. I'd just hate to have 3 editors installed in order to handle code for CF, OpenBD and Railo. Jeff, I’m not too worried about the cost. I’d just hate to have 3 editors installed in order to handle code for CF, OpenBD and Railo.

]]> By: Jeff Gladnick http://thecrumb.com/2009/04/07/where-does-cfeclipse-fit-in-an-open-cfml-world/#comment-1192 Jeff Gladnick Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:59:16 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/?p=814#comment-1192 I have to say that @ $300 I will almost definitely buy bolt for myself. I'm self-employed, so its a biz expense anyway. This assumes however that its going to have some sort of worthwhile features above and beyond what cfeclipse already provides, but I am expecting it will I have to say that @ $300 I will almost definitely buy bolt for myself. I’m self-employed, so its a biz expense anyway.

This assumes however that its going to have some sort of worthwhile features above and beyond what cfeclipse already provides, but I am expecting it will

]]> By: Jake Munson http://thecrumb.com/2009/04/07/where-does-cfeclipse-fit-in-an-open-cfml-world/#comment-1191 Jake Munson Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:55:28 +0000 http://www.thecrumb.com/?p=814#comment-1191 I, like you, use it every day. And I am concerned about it's future. I am willing to bet money that when Bolt is released it will cost around $300 (standard for IDEs these days). So I might be able to use that at work (they'll pay for it) but at home it's out of the question. So CFE is my only hope. Too bad I don't know Java (and I have very little desire to learn it)... I, like you, use it every day. And I am concerned about it’s future. I am willing to bet money that when Bolt is released it will cost around $300 (standard for IDEs these days). So I might be able to use that at work (they’ll pay for it) but at home it’s out of the question. So CFE is my only hope. Too bad I don’t know Java (and I have very little desire to learn it)…

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