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		<title>Open-source Killing Commercial Tools (IDE)</title>
		<link>http://www.thecrumb.com/2008/06/10/open-source-killing-commercial-tools-ide/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Saw this interesting article on Slashdot - Open Source Killing Commercial Developer Tools.  Will Adobe ever release an updated IDE for ColdFusion?  And if they do - would anyone buy it?
The tools market is dead. Open source killed it. The only commercial tools that can survive today are the ones that leapfrog open source [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw this interesting article on Slashdot - <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/06/10/0228220.shtml">Open Source Killing Commercial Developer Tool</a>s.  Will Adobe ever release an updated IDE for ColdFusion?  And if they do - would anyone buy it?</p>
<blockquote><p>The tools market is dead. Open source killed it. The only commercial tools that can survive today are the ones that leapfrog open source tools.</p></blockquote>
<p>According to my <a href="http://www.blogcfc.com/soundings/admin/surveys_edit.cfm?id=2B1EB770-19B9-E658-9D6046279001BCB9&amp;">IDE survey</a> the majority of the 400 respondents indicated they would pay up to $500.</p>
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<li>111 - Free</li>
<li>144 - $100</li>
<li>126 - $100-500</li>
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<p>But one wonders how much better it would have to be before people switched from the free CFEclipse.  And as I&#8217;ve said before - now with 4 CFML engines available - a &#8216;universal&#8217; CFML IDE become even more important.</p>
<p>The Slashdot article leads to a <a href="http://java.dzone.com/news/interview-john-de-goes-free-un">post at DZone</a> where the author discusses his new IDE which looks interesting as well.</p>
<blockquote><p>UNA Collaborative Edition is a real-time collaborative development environment for software engineers. It lets two or more developers edit the same code, at the same time. It&#8217;s similar to pair programming, but better because both developers can contribute productively, whether they&#8217;re located across the hall from each other or on different continents.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>jsLex and Bromine</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jsLex looks neat (it&#8217;s an Eclipse plugin):
jsLex gives developers a complete picture of the performance issues with-in thier Ajax application. By auto injecting profiling code using jsLex ant task, developers don&#8217;t need to modify their code to track down bottlenecks, minimizing coding erros and saving time.
Looks like it does quite a bit more than that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jsLex looks neat (it&#8217;s an Eclipse plugin):</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>jsLex</strong> gives developers a complete picture of the performance issues with-in thier Ajax application. By auto injecting profiling code using jsLex ant task, developers don&#8217;t need to modify their code to track down bottlenecks, minimizing coding erros and saving time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Looks like it does quite a bit more than that look at the <a href="http://www.rockstarapps.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=JsLex.Features">features page</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been so busy but I need to find some time to tinker with these tools.  I still have tried out  <a href="http://cubictest.openqa.org/">CubicTest</a> either! And today I noticed <a href="http://bromine.openqa.org/">Bromine</a>!</p>
<blockquote><p>Bromine is a fully fledged QA tool that integrates with Selenium Core and Selenium Remote Control. It makes the life of testers, test managers, developers and other people who would have an interest in how the development of a web application is progressing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Too many tools and not enough time!!</p>
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		<title>Are You Sitting On The Fence Waiting For A CF IDE From Adobe?</title>
		<link>http://www.thecrumb.com/2008/05/13/are-you-sitting-on-the-fence-waiting-for-a-cf-ide-from-adobe/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was checking out this CFUnited post on what people are looking forward to seeing at CFUnited.  This comment from Marc Escher caught my eye:
Question: A recent hot topic?
Marc:  One that doesn&#8217;t get much press but which is on the minds of many is whether Adobe&#8217;s going to come out with a CF IDE. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was checking out this <a href="http://cfunited.com/blog/index.cfm/2008/5/13/Speakers-getting-ready-for-CFUnited">CFUnited post</a> on what people are looking forward to seeing at CFUnited.  This comment from Marc Escher caught my eye:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Question</strong>: A recent hot topic?</p>
<p><strong>Marc</strong>:  One that doesn&#8217;t get much press but which is on the minds of many is whether Adobe&#8217;s going to come out with a CF IDE. It&#8217;s been hinted at in blogs but in typical fashion is carried out with the same degree of teasing that 8th grade girls use. It&#8217;s frustrating for some of us who would choose to contribute to CFEclipse if we thought that product had a long life. I believe Adobe&#8217;s hurting the CF community by not either a) committing to building an IDE or b) stopping the chatter entirely and getting behind CFEclipse. After working with FlexBuilder and seeing the productivity gains you get from it with Flex, you can&#8217;t help but feel that we&#8217;re crippled, productivity-wise, by lack of an enterprise-class IDE for CF.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m curious if others who might consider contributing to the <a href="http://www.cfeclipse.org">CFEclipse</a> project are hesitant to do so for this reason??</p>
<p>I do wish Adobe would &#8220;s&#8211;t or get off the pot&#8221; as my Mom is prone to say, about whether they are or are not developing a CF IDE.</p>
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		<title>CFML IDE Survey Summary</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I finally found a bit of time to sit down and pull out some results from the CFML IDE survey:
393 Results (4/9 - 4/28)
1. Which of these describes your role best as a CFML user? 
- Application Developer (172)
- Web Developer (129)
- Application Architect (60)
- Other included &#8220;superdude&#8221; and &#8220;all around scrub&#8221;
2. Which IDE(s) do [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally found a bit of time to sit down and pull out some results from the <a href="http://www.thecrumb.com/2008/04/09/the-open-cfml-ide-survey/">CFML IDE survey</a>:</p>
<p>393 Results (4/9 - 4/28)</p>
<p><strong>1. Which of these describes your role best as a CFML user? </strong><br />
- <span style="color: #800000;">Application Developer</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">(172)</span><br />
- Web Developer <span style="color: #0000ff;">(129)</span><br />
- Application Architect <span style="color: #0000ff;">(60)</span><br />
- Other included &#8220;superdude&#8221; and &#8220;all around scrub&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>2. Which IDE(s) do you currently use for CFML development? </strong><br />
- <span style="color: #800000;">CFEclipse</span> (319)<br />
- Dreamweaver <span style="color: #0000ff;">(133)</span><br />
- Eclipse <span style="color: #0000ff;">(118)</span><br />
- Homesite/CFStudio <span style="color: #0000ff;">(91)</span><br />
- Flexbuilder <span style="color: #0000ff;">(82)</span><br />
- Other - Aptana, Notepad++</p>
<p><strong>3. What is your platform of choice for development?</strong><br />
-<span style="color: #800000;"> Windows</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">(320)</span><br />
- Mac <span style="color: #0000ff;">(101)</span><br />
- Linux <span style="color: #0000ff;">(57)</span></p>
<p><strong>4. Which features in your IDE do you most commonly/frequently use during development?</strong><br />
- <span style="color: #800000;">Syntax highlighting of code</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">(351)</span><br />
- File Explorer<span style="color: #0000ff;"> (237)</span><br />
- Help for CFTags/Functions <span style="color: #0000ff;">(220)</span><br />
- HTML editing <span style="color: #0000ff;">(217)</span><br />
- Source code control <span style="color: #0000ff;">(205)</span><br />
- CSS editing (160)<br />
- Javascript editing <span style="color: #0000ff;">(94)</span></p>
<p><strong>5. How important are the following features for you in a CFML IDE?</strong><br />
<em>Must Have:</em><br />
- <span style="color: #800000;">Syntax high-lighting of code</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">(288)</span><br />
- HTML editing <span style="color: #0000ff;">(237)</span><br />
- CSS editing <span style="color: #0000ff;">(210)</span><br />
- Javascript editing <span style="color: #0000ff;">(199)</span><br />
- Help for CFTags/Functions <span style="color: #0000ff;">(193)</span><br />
- Source code control <span style="color: #0000ff;">(185)</span></p>
<p><em>Very Important</em>:<br />
- <span style="color: #800000;">Integrated debugger </span><span style="color: #0000ff;">(124)</span><br />
- Framework Support (121)<br />
- Intelisense on CFCs <span style="color: #0000ff;">(114)</span></p>
<p><em>Useful:</em><br />
- <span style="color: #800000;">Integrated CFC explorer</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">(161)</span><br />
- Integrated log viewer <span style="color: #0000ff;">(146)</span><br />
- Integrated CRUD wizard <span style="color: #0000ff;">(126)</span></p>
<p><em>Nice To Have:</em><br />
-<span style="color: #800000;"> Integrated RDS data explorer</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">(104) </span><br />
- Customizable code coloring <span style="color: #0000ff;">(83)</span><br />
- Simplified Flex/Air development (71)</p>
<p>Unnecessary:<br />
- <span style="color: #800000;">Integrated CRUD wizard</span> (71)<br />
- Integrated RDS data explorer <span style="color: #0000ff;">(50)</span><br />
- Simplified Flex/Air development <span style="color: #0000ff;">(31)</span></p>
<p><strong>6. What in your opinion would be the right price range for CFML IDE?</strong><br />
- <span style="color: #800000;">Under $100</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">(138)</span><br />
- $100-500 <span style="color: #0000ff;">(124)</span><br />
- Free <span style="color: #0000ff;">(109)</span></p>
<p><strong>7. What features would you like to see added as one click install to an CFML IDE?</strong><br />
- <span style="color: #800000;">Source control</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">(294)</span><br />
- XML tools <span style="color: #0000ff;">(240)</span><br />
- Documentation generation tools <span style="color: #0000ff;">(220)</span><br />
- Diff / compare tools <span style="color: #0000ff;">(216)</span><br />
- Unit testing tools <span style="color: #0000ff;">(203)</span><br />
- Other: &#8220;The ability to harness the magical powers of the internet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still disappointed in the low number of results.  According to this recent article in <a href="http://www.infoworld.com/archives/emailPrint.jsp?R=printThis&amp;A=/article/08/03/11/Adobe-ColdFusion-warming-to-64-bit-OSes_1.html">Infoworld</a>&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><span class="artText">Adobe officials cited analyst estimates of 400,000 developers using ColdFusion</span></p></blockquote>
<p>So 400 results seems a tad low.  So either people just ignored the survey, or there is a huge number of ColdFusion developers that don&#8217;t know about my blog :)  I&#8217;d love to know what kind of results Adobe got on their IDE survey.</p>
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		<title>The Savvy CMS - CFEclipse.org Makeover - Part II</title>
		<link>http://www.thecrumb.com/2008/04/23/the-savvy-cms-cfeclipseorg-makeover-part-ii/</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[When we last left our Savvy saga we were facing installation.  Again the great documentation made installation a breeze and sums up the steps required nicely:
Savvy CM installation is very easy. There are no installation programs to be run on the server, instead you copy your files to the web server, modify the includes.cfm file [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When <a title="The Savvy CMS - CFEclipse.org Makeover - Part I" href="http://www.thecrumb.com/2008/04/04/the-savvy-cms-cfeclipseorg-makeover-part-i/">we last left our Savvy saga</a> we were facing installation.  Again the great documentation made installation a breeze and sums up the steps required nicely:</p>
<blockquote><p>Savvy CM installation is very easy. There are no installation programs to be run on the server, instead you copy your files to the web server, modify the includes.cfm file with the correct information for your installation, register the database in ColdFusion, then upload your templates.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are a few things you need to consider. Savvy includes an application.cfm file so if you are installing Savvy into an existing application (which is possible) you need to take some additional steps in order to allow the use of the Savvy application.cfm. Again these are outlined in details in the online docs.</p>
<p>Next you modify a file,<em> includes.cfm</em>, in which you define you datasource, some path information, site name and description and some other general settings.  Next you run a diagnostic utility which will check your configuration, verify your datasources and warn you if you need to fix anything. If all looks well you can then use the same diagnostic page to create your database.</p>
<p>The few glitches I encountered during installation and configuration were <strong>all</strong> covered in the documentation.</p>
<p>Once you have Savvy installed and configured the next step is to create a template!</p>
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		<title>What&#8217;s New With CFEclipse?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of good stuff going on in the CFEclipse community lately.  Development is picking up, there are lots of discussions going on about the future of CFEclipse.  Mark has released a few &#8216;bleeding edge&#8217; examples using Aptana and  Eclipse&#8217;s DLTK.
But you may not know that&#8230;
So I thought I&#8217;d share a few ways  you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of good stuff going on in the <a title="CFEclipse" href="http://www.cfeclipse.org">CFEclipse</a> community lately.  Development is picking up, there are lots of discussions going on about the future of CFEclipse.  Mark has released a few &#8216;bleeding edge&#8217; examples using Aptana and  Eclipse&#8217;s DLTK.</p>
<p>But you may not know that&#8230;</p>
<p>So I thought I&#8217;d share a few ways  you can stay current:</p>
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<li>Join the <a title="CFEclipse mailing list" href="http://groups.google.com/group/cfeclipse-users">CFEclipse mailing list</a> (there are <a href="http://www.cfeclipse.org/support.cfm">other lists</a> available for developers, etc)</li>
<li>Subscribe to the <a href="http://trac.cfeclipse.org/cfeclipse/timeline">Trac RSS feed</a> you can see what bugs are closed, open, wiki edits and more</li>
<li>Subscribe to <a href="http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/">Mark Drew&#8217;s blog</a></li>
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<p>Of course hopefully you are subscribed to my blog so I won&#8217;t mention that <img src='http://www.thecrumb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>CMFL IDE Survey - Initial Results</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &#8216;Open&#8217; CFML Survey has been up for about a week.  As promised here is the first round of results:



Total Number of Survey Results
371


First Result
4/09/08 1:35 AM


Last Result
4/16/08 6:45 PM



Results are available in both PDF and Excel:

PDF:  cfml-ide-report-041708
Excel: cfml-ide-report-041708

Both these are just a dump of the data - no pretty graphs.  I&#8217;m [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a title="Open CFML Survey" href="http://www.thecrumb.com/2008/04/09/the-open-cfml-ide-survey/">&#8216;Open&#8217; CFML Survey</a> has been up for about a week.  As promised here is the first round of results:</p>
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<p>Results are available in both PDF and Excel:</p>
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<li>PDF:  <a href="http://www.thecrumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cfml-ide-report-041708.pdf">cfml-ide-report-041708</a></li>
<li>Excel: <a href="http://www.thecrumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cfml-ide-report-041708.xls">cfml-ide-report-041708</a></li>
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<p>Both these are just a dump of the data - no pretty graphs.  I&#8217;m going to try and go through some of this data and summarize it a bit in a more readable format (hopefully I can get to this over the weekend)</p>
<p>I did dump the HTML output (with pretty graphs) into a PDF as well.</p>
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<li>PDF (with graphs):  <a href="http://www.thecrumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cfml-ide-report-041708a.pdf">cfml-ide-report-041708a</a></li>
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<p>This is a bit nicer to look at but you can&#8217;t drill down into the &#8216;other&#8217; replies, etc.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are concerned with the direction and future of CFEclipse - I&#8217;d urge you to check out the CFEclipse mailing list.  Marc Esher has a great post &#8220;Where Is CFEclipse Headed&#8220;.  I&#8217;ve been having similar thoughts lately - he just beat me to the punch in organizing them into a cohesive thought [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are concerned with the direction and future of CFEclipse - I&#8217;d urge you to check out the CFEclipse mailing list.  Marc Esher has a great post &#8220;<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/cfeclipse-users/browse_thread/thread/9f0ab1ac7bb7aae6">Where Is CFEclipse Headed</a>&#8220;.  I&#8217;ve been having similar thoughts lately - he just beat me to the punch in organizing them into a cohesive thought  <img src='http://www.thecrumb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Check out Marc&#8217;s post and please consider joining the CFEclipse mailing list and contribute your thoughts.                             </p>
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		<title>CFML IDE - Initial Numbers</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		
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So the CFML IDE Survey has been up for a few days&#8230; some quick numbers:

The post on my blog had about 200 hits
Survey admin says: Total Number of Survey Results ~ 300

Hopefully there are more than 300 ColdFusion developers out there&#8230;  
If you haven&#8217;t taken it yet - please consider taking a few moments [...]]]></description>
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<p>So the CFML IDE Survey has been up for a few days&#8230; some quick numbers:</p>
<ul>
<li>The post on my blog had about 200 hits</li>
<li>Survey admin says: <em>Total Number of Survey Results ~ 300</em></li>
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<p>Hopefully there are more than 300 ColdFusion developers out there&#8230; <img src='http://www.thecrumb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t taken it yet - please consider taking a few moments to <a title="CFML IDE Survey" href="http://www.blogcfc.com/soundings/survey.cfm?id=2B1EB770-19B9-E658-9D6046279001BCB9" target="_blank">take the survey</a>!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll wait a few more days and then post some preliminary results&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Ray Camden kindly gave me access so I could setup a survey using his Soundings Survey application (it rocks!). 
I&#8217;ve copied the original questions from the Adobe survey and added a few John Farrar sent me after some discussions on this open Aptana support ticket.
Once we collect some data I&#8217;ll publish the results on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.thecrumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/surveysays.png'><img src="http://www.thecrumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/surveysays.png" alt="" title="surveysays" width="280" height="228" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-415" /></a> <a href="http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/">Ray Camden</a> kindly gave me access so I could setup a survey using his <a href="http://soundings.riaforge.org/">Soundings Survey application</a> (it rocks!). </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve copied the original questions from the Adobe survey and added a few <a href="http://www.sosensible.com/">John Farrar</a> sent me after some discussions on <a href="http://support.aptana.com/asap/browse/STU-284">this open Aptana support ticket</a>.</p>
<p>Once we collect some data I&#8217;ll publish the results on a regular basis (Ray&#8217;s app supports PDF, Excel and HTML export!).  If we need more data we can do another survey&#8230;.</p>
<p>The idea here is to collect some feedback on what you (the CFML community) want to see in an IDE.  This data will be available to <strong>anyone</strong> who wants to help support CFEclipse or roll your own IDE.  </p>
<p>So spread the word: <a href="http://www.blogcfc.com/soundings/survey.cfm?id=2B1EB770-19B9-E658-9D6046279001BCB9">Link to survey</a>! </p>
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