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		<title>The Closed State Of The ColdFusion Community</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Priest</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw this post on Mike Henke&#8217;s blog&#8230; ColdFusion is dead (yet again) and of course I had to go read it. Mike&#8217;s take was it was just another &#8220;CF is dead&#8221; rant. But I clicked through and read the &#8230; <a href="http://thecrumb.com/2008/04/09/the-closed-state-of-the-coldfusion-community/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this post on Mike Henke&#8217;s blog&#8230; <a href="http://www.henke.ws/machblog/index.cfm?event=showEntry&amp;entryId=332F3ACD%2D19B9%2DBA51%2DEE0CD62DCC706DEC">ColdFusion is dead (yet again)</a> and of course I had to go read it.  Mike&#8217;s take was it was just another &#8220;CF is dead&#8221; rant.  But I clicked through and read the original post <a href="http://manwithnoblog.com/2008/04/08/the-state-of-coldfusion/#content">The State Of ColdFusion</a> and have to agree with many of the author&#8217;s points.</p>
<p>Some of the arguments:  price, job market, etc., have been hashed over many times and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth beating that horse anymore.  However he does ask some really hard questions which I thought were really good:</p>
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Now on the flip side when did you last hear about:</p>
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<li>In fact anyone standing up talking about Coldfusion outside of a ColdFusion User Group. Doing this would at least make people aware of Coldfusion.</li>
<li>Any promotion of Coldfusion outside of the Coldfusion User Groups.</li>
<li>Coldfusion servers and educational package being rolled out free to universities so they can teach Coldfusion.</li>
<li>A graduate who knows what Coldfusion is.</li>
<li>A new book on Coldfusion in a bookstore online or otherwise.</li>
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<p>These are some great questions! I don&#8217;t keep up with all the conferences but get the occasional mailer for things and I&#8217;ve never seen CF mentioned outside of Adobe/CF conferences (and maybe lately Flex stuff).  It would be nice to compile a list of conferences we could possibly attend to spread the word.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve hashed over the CF in education thing lately &#8211; this could be a big inroad possibly for Open Blue Dragon?  In school?  Walk in with OpenBD and CFEclipse on a CD&#8230;</p>
<p>And books. There is the WACK but I&#8217;d argue that&#8217;s not a &#8216;new&#8217; book.  Doing a quick search at Amazon I get 3 pages of results and the WACK series is the only new book I see listed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really hoping the Open Blue Dragon announcement can spark some excitement about CFML <em>outside</em> our community.  Lots of potential here&#8230;  Push OpenBD in the educational channels!  Who&#8217;s going to write the first OpenBD book??  Can we get OpenBD into other web development conferences??</p>
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		<title>OpenBD Steering Committee</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2008/04/08/openbd-steering-committee/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Priest</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan has a list of the OpenBD (Open BlueDragon) Steering Committee on his blog: Andy Allan, Peter Amiri, Mike Brunt, Sean Corfield, Mark Drew, Adam Haskell, Jordan Michaels, Alan Williamson, Matt Woodward and Andy Wu LOTS of good names on &#8230; <a href="http://thecrumb.com/2008/04/08/openbd-steering-committee/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan has a <a href="http://alan.blog-city.com/bluedragon_steering_committee.htm">list of the OpenBD (Open BlueDragon) Steering Committee</a> on his blog:</p>
<blockquote><p>Andy Allan, Peter Amiri, Mike Brunt, Sean Corfield, Mark Drew, Adam Haskell, Jordan Michaels, Alan Williamson, Matt Woodward and Andy Wu</p></blockquote>
<p>LOTS of good names on there and some really nice quotes but obviously I&#8217;m going to have to step up and volunteer for the committee myself.</p>
<p><a href='http://thecrumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/empty_pockets.jpg'><img src="http://thecrumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/empty_pockets.jpg" alt="OpenBD is FREE" width="200" height="133" class="alignright size-full wp-image-413" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;formalised language&#8221;&#8230; &#8220;masterful clustering-replication mechanism&#8221;&#8230; </p></blockquote>
<p>Huh?</p>
<p>Not one of them mentioned the dreaded &#8216;<em>f-word</em>&#8216;&#8230;.  Can&#8217;t anyone say it??!  Me of shallow pockets (have you priced kid sneakers lately?) will&#8230;</p>
<p><em>OpenBD is Free!!</em>  (it even rhymes &#8211; marketing will love that)</p>
<p>OK. Now I feel better.</p>
<p>On a serious note &#8211; I am happy to see such prominent names on the committee and I&#8217;m really looking forward to seeing where all this goes.  Exciting times!</p>
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		<title>Vince Bonfanti On ColdFusion Weekly, OpenBD Mailing List</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2008/04/03/vince-bonfanti-on-coldfusion-weekly-openbd-mailing-list/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Priest</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you haven&#8217;t listened to the Vince Bonfanti interview on ColdFusion Weekly yet &#8211; go do it. To be honest I was expecting a bit more of a &#8216;cut-n-paste&#8217; interview where Vince responded with canned responses. It was anything but. &#8230; <a href="http://thecrumb.com/2008/04/03/vince-bonfanti-on-coldfusion-weekly-openbd-mailing-list/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t listened to the Vince Bonfanti interview on <a href="http://www.coldfusionweekly.com/">ColdFusion Weekly</a> yet &#8211; go do it.</p>
<p>To be honest I was expecting a bit more of a &#8216;cut-n-paste&#8217; interview where Vince responded with canned responses.  It was anything but.  Vince gave a great overview of his history (he&#8217;s a developer GASP!), the history of BlueDragon, and why they decided it was time to go open-source.  He answered a ton of questions and cleared up quite a few things I was wondering about.</p>
<p>It was funny because he mentioned using File Maker Pro and having it connect to the web.  That was EXACTLY the reason I discovered ColdFusion.  A Mac user at my company had a huge File Maker database that he wanted to &#8216;webify&#8217;.  At the time there was no ODBC connection to File Maker and I went exploring options and found ColdFusion.</p>
<p>Listening to Vince, it&#8217;s clear that he <em>gets</em> open-source. I&#8217;m even more excited about the release of OpenBD now than I was before.</p>
<p>On a side note there is a new <a href="http://http://groups.google.com/group/openbd">OpenBD mailing list</a>.</p>
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